The Tudors, Season 3, Episode 2

This is a weekly discussion of The Tudors.  SPOILERS below!

Well, Henry was a whole lot of fun this episode, wasn’t he?  I know I said that it looked like he was going to be a little…shall we say, harsher, this season, but I didn’t expect his asshole side to come out this quickly and this fully!  His wound looks incredibly painful – I’m not surprised that he’s more unpleasant.

I have a feeling this peasant rebellion is not going to go well.  Obviously Henry, and by extension, Charles, is lying to them with every promise made.  The sad thing is, I feel like Charles actually sympathizes with these peasants and feels really bad that Henry is not even willing to consider appeasing his subjects. He’s going to end up getting caught between being loyal to his old friend and sovereign, whom I think he genuinely cares for, and his sympathies with the English people.  I hate that Henry tricked the rebellion leaders into coming to court – this can’t end well.

I wish we had seen more of Jane these past two episodes.  Still, I have liked what I’ve seen.  I think it’s interesting that Henry told Jane that he loved her more than he loved Anne, or Katharine.  I don’t actually believe that’s true – I think he pretty much lost his ability to love after being “betrayed” by Anne.  Now I think he simply uses people.  I also thought it was interesting that Henry cautioned Jane, reminding her of how he dispatched of Anne.  It’s clear he doesn’t want a partner in marriage; he only wants a faithful woman who will give him sons and keep her mouth shut.

I’m sad that Peter O’Toole didn’t return this season as the Pope.  I thought he was funny, elegant, and extremely graceful.  Still, the new Pope is a great substitute.

I’m really glad that Mary came to court.  Like I said last time, I hope she becomes more of a player in the series.  I think that will happen, considering there is a conspiracy to put her on the throne in the place of her father.  I did think it was hilarious when Sir Francis tested Mary’s innocence (at Henry’s urging) by telling her about the new “game” at court.

This was another great episode and I’m looking forward to the rest.  I have to ask, does the theme music make anyone else as happy as it makes me?  Every time the credits come on, I just sit back and relax with a smile on my face.  This show in general is just so well done!  Your thoughts?

Comments

  1. Oh i love this series and I’m fascinated by Henry’s history!
    I haven’t seen this season yet, but i will as soon as it’s available 🙂

  2. Oh i love this series and I’m fascinated by Henry’s history!
    I haven’t seen this season yet, but i will as soon as it’s available 🙂

  3. I loved the scene when Jane brings Mary to court and to the attention of Henry. That whole test and the setup were great. Looks like Elizabeth will be coming next week. There’s that famous painting showing Henry, Jane, and their son with Mary and Elizabeth in the background.

    And they finally brought up the part about Henry loving Jane — that is usually mentioned in the biographies (that Jane was a true love).

    The wound looks nasty; I wonder why they had Jane laying on top of it in the bedroom scene. They should have had her on the other side. Wasn’t it supposed to have emitted an odor?

    The poor gullible peasants!

  4. I loved the scene when Jane brings Mary to court and to the attention of Henry. That whole test and the setup were great. Looks like Elizabeth will be coming next week. There’s that famous painting showing Henry, Jane, and their son with Mary and Elizabeth in the background.

    And they finally brought up the part about Henry loving Jane — that is usually mentioned in the biographies (that Jane was a true love).

    The wound looks nasty; I wonder why they had Jane laying on top of it in the bedroom scene. They should have had her on the other side. Wasn’t it supposed to have emitted an odor?

    The poor gullible peasants!

  5. My dad and I literally dance around the living room like fools when the theme music begins! 🙂 Just freaking love this show!

    So I think I told you before that we don’t have Showtime anymore, so we’re watching it online? Well, it’s an adventure — to say the least! We found a website that streams all the episodes in HD, but you can only use so much “bandwidth” at once or it cuts your video off. Then you have to wait an hour to watch the rest! Needless to say, that happened last night while we were about 20 minutes into the episode. SO FRUSTRATING! Then we were left scrounging around on YouTube to find the rest! We did, though, and then we could actually watch the whole rest of the episode at the first website again… because it took so long to find the missing pieces. Argh.

    But all my frustrations aside, it was a great episode. Henry is definitely in full-blown jerk mode, and it’s really intimidating when he’s in his “quiet” mode… perhaps even moreso than when he’s screaming. You know if he approaches someone softly, like Cromwell, it’s going to be trouble.

    I also found it interesting that he told Jane he loved her more than the others… because he was so infatuated by Anne. Historians do say that Jane was his “true” love, but I’m wondering if, because she died in childbirth and gave him a son, he just revered her as a sort of martyr for continuing his line and giving him all that he asked of her. The others couldn’t complete these tasks, and no one after her would, either. Sad.

    Okay! I wrote you a book 🙂 Can’t wait for next week! Hopefully I can figure out a better way to watch the episode, haha!

  6. My dad and I literally dance around the living room like fools when the theme music begins! 🙂 Just freaking love this show!

    So I think I told you before that we don’t have Showtime anymore, so we’re watching it online? Well, it’s an adventure — to say the least! We found a website that streams all the episodes in HD, but you can only use so much “bandwidth” at once or it cuts your video off. Then you have to wait an hour to watch the rest! Needless to say, that happened last night while we were about 20 minutes into the episode. SO FRUSTRATING! Then we were left scrounging around on YouTube to find the rest! We did, though, and then we could actually watch the whole rest of the episode at the first website again… because it took so long to find the missing pieces. Argh.

    But all my frustrations aside, it was a great episode. Henry is definitely in full-blown jerk mode, and it’s really intimidating when he’s in his “quiet” mode… perhaps even moreso than when he’s screaming. You know if he approaches someone softly, like Cromwell, it’s going to be trouble.

    I also found it interesting that he told Jane he loved her more than the others… because he was so infatuated by Anne. Historians do say that Jane was his “true” love, but I’m wondering if, because she died in childbirth and gave him a son, he just revered her as a sort of martyr for continuing his line and giving him all that he asked of her. The others couldn’t complete these tasks, and no one after her would, either. Sad.

    Okay! I wrote you a book 🙂 Can’t wait for next week! Hopefully I can figure out a better way to watch the episode, haha!

  7. I loved this episode! A few quick thoughts –

    I agree with the commenter above that Jane was made into a martyr in Henry’s mind. He was thrilled beyond measure with the birth of their son, but I seriously doubt that she would have kept him content had she lived. He might have revered her though, and kept her as an honored queen, even if he didn’t continue sharing her bed.

    I’m looking forward to seeing the interaction between Mary and Elizabeth. By some accounts they actually got along, but by others they did not – I’m interested to see how this show handles it.

  8. I loved this episode! A few quick thoughts –

    I agree with the commenter above that Jane was made into a martyr in Henry’s mind. He was thrilled beyond measure with the birth of their son, but I seriously doubt that she would have kept him content had she lived. He might have revered her though, and kept her as an honored queen, even if he didn’t continue sharing her bed.

    I’m looking forward to seeing the interaction between Mary and Elizabeth. By some accounts they actually got along, but by others they did not – I’m interested to see how this show handles it.

  9. Anonymous says:

    I really enjoy this show. I have to agree that Henry’s only ability is now completely lost. He doesn’t have the ability to love but to try and create a son heir which is likely never to happen from what we know in history. Jane Seymour will only succumb to the same fate as Anne since she has already showed her ability to speak up when she sees something needs to change, i.e his relationship with Mary. So it should be interesting to see how his marriage to Jane turns out.

  10. Anonymous says:

    I really enjoy this show. I have to agree that Henry’s only ability is now completely lost. He doesn’t have the ability to love but to try and create a son heir which is likely never to happen from what we know in history. Jane Seymour will only succumb to the same fate as Anne since she has already showed her ability to speak up when she sees something needs to change, i.e his relationship with Mary. So it should be interesting to see how his marriage to Jane turns out.

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